You're just pissed because you Kommie La Whoreass rimmers keep losing to him, e.g.:

https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/09/15/jd-vance-dana-bash-n2400988

Losing what to whom, MAGgie?

Losing your arguments to J.D. Vance, Leftardy.

Epic fact check of KommieLiar Whoreass:

https://x.com/LoriMills4CA42/status/1834668993850036641

MAGgie, that was one Harris statement that was misleading. You win a cookie. https://www.wuft.org/politifact-florida/2024-09-13/politifact-fl-why-harris-debate-remarks-about-u-s-military-in-combat-zones-is-misleading. Not anywhere comparable to hundreds of lies espoused by Der Orange Fuerher since he has existed. Ass.

Jokes from nearlyba decade ago. Way to be up on your memes, MAGGIE. https://youtu.be/KAtsNzhkC-k?feature=shared

I have no rejoinder to the Furo video except that it looks fake as hell. And it doesn't change the truth that JD will continue(as he put it) "to create stories" .

You're flailing, Leftardy: obviously "statement that was misleading" = LIE; and KommiLiar Whoreass is guilty of telling dozens more of those LIES during that debate alone (which she STILL ended up losing to Trump in a T.K.O. despite having two cheating moderators babysitting her). A joke that is funny because it's true (i.e. that the racist Kenyan Usurper Hussein ate dogs) only gets funnier with age. "I have no rejoinder..." and we can stop right there, because that's the only part of anything you said there that's even remotely true, you hateful hypocritical violent-eliminationist-rhetoric-spewing goose-stepping free-speech-hating far-left fascist traitortwat.

More of Leftardy's favorite kind of rhetoric:

https://babylonbee.com/news/media-assures-americans-that-the-real-threat-is-the-side-that-keeps-getting-shot-at

Remember, DemoKKKrats: if you get raped and murdered by one of the millions of illegal alien invaders that treasonous unelected illegal White House occupant KommieLiar Whoreass welcomed into our country when Dementia Joe (remember him?) appointed her as border czar, that's because you racist sluts shouldn't have been talking so dirty and wearing your skirts so short.

Whenever Conald Skunk's poll numbers drop there's another "assassination" attempt. So staged. Reminds me of 2004: whenever Bush's poll numbers dropped there was a new terror alert. But this time even Dick Cheney has endorsed Kamala; it's all over for Conald Skunk.

Oh, wow! Look who's spewing insane conspiracy theories now! Guess I should've figured you were a BlueAnon moonbat, Kommie Kapo Kocksucker; you pretty much NEED to have that much cognitive dissonance to be ethnically Jewish and yet support the goose-stepping Hamas-whoring Israel-hating DemoKKKrats over President Trump, who's been Israel's greatest friend in the Oval Office since Ronald Reagan. You'd also have to be pretty deranged to believe Cheney's endorsement is any benefit to KommieLiar Whoreass in the polls; between his and Taylor Swift's endorsement, that stupid street-walking Hamas harlot is losing to President Trump even worse than she was before!

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.

It sure does! See all the defamation of President Donald Trump and J.D. Vance these DemoKKKrats here have been doing ever since they lost the debate to Trump AGAIN. (Of course, as once noted by J. Jonah Jameson as portrayed by J.K. Simmons, slander is spoken; in print, defamation is legally known as libel. If Socrates were around today, I'm sure he'd agree his statement applies to these leftard losers' libels of the winners as well.)

It's so hilarious that the maga freaks think they're going to win.

It's so hilarious how KommieLiar Whoreass simps project.

If Trump and Vance were to sue for libel,and defamation they would need to prove whatever it is they are suing libel and defamtion about was false.

Hey, did you know that babylonbee is a satire website?

Defamation in all forms isn't illegal in the United States when it's against public figures; it's one of the liberties fundamental to a free country to be allowed to say whatever the hell we want about our politicians. DemoKKKrats, of course, are looking to abolish this right because they're all traitors who hate our country and want to enslave and murder us all.

My biggest fear is that under Trump, sites like this will be shut down...because that's what DICTATORS do.

Funny... because it's under the far-left Constitution-hating goose-stepping DemoKKKrats' election-stealing authoritarian oligarchy that sites like this are more likely to get shut down.

Of course we know the Babylon Bee is a satire website; and that's one of the very sites the free-speech-hating DemoKKKrats are already trying to shut down for "spreading misinformation" i.e. telling truths (albeit satirically) that contradict their illegitimate authoritarian oligarchy's fraudulent and seditious narratives. Do you deny that we people on President Donald Trump's side are the ones who've been shot at (and sometimes hit) by crazed assassins? And do you deny that the DemoKKKrats are hypocritically declaring us the dangerous ones even though we haven't fired any gunshots at them for any of their murderously hateful eliminationist rhetoric?

I cannot deny what I am unknowledgable of, but I do know some of your "fine" people have ran a car through a crowd in Charlottesville (killing one) and assaulted and/or critically injured many keepers of the peace on January 6th (and please don't give me the "they were just tourists" line). I wouldn't be surprised if some of your "fine" people have been terrorized by extremists on the other side, as much as some of your "fine" people have done, too. Meanwhile, I keep seeing reports of "fine" people on your side losing their S*** over "satire" on the centrist and left sides as well. Many pots calling kettles black. Sad. I will expect your predictably ad hominem rebuttal in due time.

It would help you Biden-rimming KommieLiar Whoreass simps if you actually checked the facts once in a while instead of mindlessly regurgitating your far-left propagandists' BS narratives. Conveniently, we American patriots who support President Donald Trump the rightful winner of the stolen 2020 elections against you capital traitors who supported those thefts now have thorough debunkings of each and every one of the lies you just told all gathered in one place.

Let's start with the "Fine People" Hoax:

https://americandebunk.com/2024/06/29/the-fine-people-hoax/

Then there's your BS about the peaceful January 6 protests against treasonous election theft, a protest in which YOU treasonous insurrectionist thugs fighting for the election thieves committed the ONLY murder that day against the patriot Ashli Babbitt; for which her murderer Michael Byrd has yet to be punished:

https://americandebunk.com/2024/07/12/the-january-6-insurrection-hoax/

The Babylon Bee is right: the only side that's been committing capital treason, arson, terrorism, and murder against the other is you goose-stepping DemoKKKrat thugs who serve the election thieves illegally occupying the White House. That you lawless leftards' "heroes" and "martyrs" are the likes of George Floyd, Michael Byrd, Anthony Huber, Joseph Rosenbaum, Gaige Grosskreutz, Thomas Crooks, and Ryan Routh tells those of us with working minds everything we need to know whose side all the ACTUAL "fascists" and "stochastic terrorists" who desire to overthrow the Constitution's rule of law, murder all their political opponents, and install a dictatorship are on: yours.

@MAGA - your "hoaxes" are not hoaxes: one is a completely ambiguous bit of nonsense from the then-President which could easily mean exactly what has been inferred by many people. That he contradicted himself a bunch later is more like an attempt at plausible deniability than "assuming he meant what he actually said is a hoax". The Jan6 brouhaha was violent - pretending it was peaceful, or even a majority peaceful goes against so much of what we actually saw on our TVs as it unfolded. The "what you'd have to believe" section is a list of strawman arguments.

I'm guessing that the whole site is similarly trying to spin reality into something more palatable so people like you can cling on to the delusion of being right. About, well, anything.

He sure is silly, ain't he?

and what do you call peaceful? Smashing shop windows, lighting fireworks and setting waste bins on fire, destroying cars, and throwing things at police? That's what those "Not My President" hypocrites did when Trump was first elected, but to you it's probably ok because they are on your side.

Send Trump back to Butler.......Everybody deserves a second chance.....even "Crooks"......IF YOU GET MY DRIFT.

@@Phil - this is something I see a *lot* from the Trump-supporting right wing: making up what they think someone else thinks, then castigating them for it. Show me anywhere where I have downplayed rioting, and you might have a point. But, as always, you don't.

Well, Phil, judging by Jeff's incitement of violence by stating that he wishes Crooks a "second chance" (at assassinating Trump, obviously), our assessments of what you free-speech-hating far-left fascists are "thinking" (to the extent that the hatred and lies your globalist death cult's leaders have programmed you leftards to regurgitate to us can be termed "thought") appear to be quite accurate. Again, your side is clearly the one that has committed all the rioting, arson, insurrection, sedition, treason, and murder over these past four years. Judging by your pathetic deflections, it's clear you barely even skimmed americandebunk.com's debunking of your January 6 hoax and didn't read its debunking of your "fine people" hoax at all; that's because you know all the facts are against you and you can't answer them.

@MAGA - you're simply lying. "Again, your side is clearly the one that has committed all the rioting, arson, insurrection, sedition, treason, and murder over these past four years" - is visibly risible. Especially as I don't have a "side": I'm not in the US, I don't have a horse in your race. I'm as near an unbiased observer as you're going to get. There are *so* many things you assert which are nowhere near reality.

"Facts"? You use this word: I do not think it means what you think it means. Ditto "hoax".

YOU are one who's simply lying, Phil: one needs only look at anything you've ever posted on this site to see that you are on the free-speech-hating far-left fascists's side, which includes not only the DemoKKKrats here in the U.S., but your free-speech-hating far-left fascist "Labour" Party with its authoritarian globalist oligarch Keir Starmer over there in the U.K. You're about as "unbiased" as they are. As also demonstrated by everything you've ever posted on this site, absolutely NOTHING you've ever asserted has been anywhere near reality.

"Facts": realities that are not subject to opinion, e.g. the fact that J.D. Vance has NEVER had sex with a couch.

"Hoax": an attempt to trick people into believing something preposterous, e.g. the facetious "J.D. Vance had sex with a couch!" rumor you and a great many other far-left fools asserted to me as credulously as you do every other preposterous leftard narrative; I'll bet you still believe the "Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian misinformation" and "assassination attempts on Trump were staged" hoaxes too.

I am here to report on news that media has not covered yet, and they should be for the good of the American people is that MAGA and their friends gather nightly in Springfield Oh to EAT HAWAIIAN PIZZA. I shall create these stories as needed to make THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA ignore the fact that my party has NO ACTUAL AGENDA.

@MAGA - your "e.g. the fact that J.D. Vance has NEVER had sex with a couch." - that this was something he really did has *never* been asserted as fact. It has been an ongoing joke *because* everyone knows it's not true (however plausible a rumour it might be). This is exactly the sort of misrepresentation you keep making.

Re Hunter Biden's laptop: no, I don't think it's misinformation. Because unlike you I am able to change my mind when presented with evidence. It was reasonable to start with to assume that is was misinformation: the first mentions of it were from Giuliani's stream of utter bollocks that even you don't repeat as being true. So, yes, everyone thought it was another lie like so many others. However, I'm happy to admit I was wrong when shown to be so. Which is so very, *very* unlike you.

And you are so incredibly, laughably wrong about the Labour party being "far left" - they're closer to centre-right at the moment. See if you can find a left-winger this side of the Atlantic and ask them how left-wing Starmer is :-D

So, if nothing I have ever asserted has been anywhere near reality - show me some proof that I have been wrong. There's over a thousand parodies, and probably many thousands of comments, you should be able to find dozens of examples where you can prove what I've said has been wrong. I bet you won't find any (well, any that aren't based on your pathetically distorted version of reality.. any link that isn't to a MAGA propaganda site will do)

You notice how MAGA sez "that YOU asserted TO ME"(emphasis mine) where nobody within this circle is trying to convince him of the hoax. Look at that self-delusion, self-justification at work. Just like Trump, The attack on his self-worth, on BELIEFS which is all he has, which is probably what has plagued him his entire life. it's all about HIS feelings and his imagination, not toward any rational reality. Sad, so weird, psychotic quite possibly.

Are the stories about lots of migrants in the USA eating pets exaggerated?

Yes!

What about Springfield?

You'll never know for sure if you weren't there.

But she retracted her claims!

Yes, that's what happens when you're a girl and lotsa men online threaten to kill you!

Alright, what about in general, people don't eat pets, do they?

When you live illegally or off the grid you sometimes have to eat what you can get, this is nothing new and has nothing at all to do with the current USA election. When I was young during an especially cold winter some of the local ducks in one of the few open waters disappeared with the passing of a, let's call it travelling band, and grilled remains were found later. Asian restaurangs world wide have been found to use stray dogs, sometimes cats and birds, to make ends meet. Don't get me started on Chinese water market diets, I'm sure y'all remember the narrative explaining in great detail that as the origin of Covid (described as either a right wing or left wing conspiracy depending on what side was in opposition in your particular nation when the diarrhea hit the fan). And there's an Oscar Award winning movie from the 80s called "The Killing Fields" that describes what people had to eat (anything they could find, including bugs on the ground) after the communist takeover of Cambodia.

That sounds insane!

Who said the current eaters were sane? Remember that already back in the 80s when Cubans flooded into Miami that their ranks were stacked because Fidel Castro emptied his country's jails and asylums and sent inmates along with the sane people boating out. Miami became the most crime infested city in the USA for a couple of years. Maduro in Venezuela is doing the same thing right now. The majority of emigrants will always be sane people wanting to live better lives, but if everyone in their home countries were sane to begin with they needn't have come in the first place. And the more sane people that gets out the less there are left to help and take care of the crazies back home, so some of them has to follow, have no choice even if their current regimes doesn't force them over into the USA like communist Maduro is doing to stay afloat himself.

"So, if nothing I have ever asserted has been anywhere near reality - show me some proof that I have been wrong. There's over a thousand parodies, and probably many thousands of comments, you should be able to find dozens of examples where you can prove what I've said has been wrong."

Hell, who needs to dig through all those when we've got loads of your blatant lies right here?

"I bet you won't find any (well, any that aren't based on your pathetically distorted version of reality.. any link that isn't to a MAGA propaganda site will do)"

Translation: "Any evidence you present from a link that isn't propaganda from my far-left echo chambers, I will dismiss out of hand as 'MAGA propaganda' and therefore won't have to refute." Nice of you to admit up front that any evidence you can't refute, you'll simply dismiss as propaganda; which is exactly what you did with the overwhelming evidence for the 2020 election thefts at hereistheevidence.com I presented to you. That's why, when I present such links, they're for any spectators who might still be open to persuasion, not for non-persuadable rabidly far-left delusion dwellers like you.

"Especially as I don't have a "side": I'm not in the US, I don't have a horse in your race. I'm as near an unbiased observer as you're going to get."

Now here's a lie that's absurdly easy to refute! That you're not actually over here voting in these races (or at least shouldn't be; considering how the DemoKKKrats here have consistently fought tooth and nail against any and all the Republicans' common-sense measures to prevent non-citizens from voting, you certainly COULD have gotten away with casting a ballot—or multiple ballots—for Dementia Joe in the 2020 elections) doesn't mean absolutely EVERYONE here hasn't seen you constantly shilling for the far left with all of its narratives and crabbing everyone to the right of Stalin over here in America. Yeah, anyone can see that politically, you're about as "unbiased" as Jeremy Corbyn!

"And you are so incredibly, laughably wrong about the Labour party being "far left" - they're closer to centre-right at the moment. See if you can find a left-winger this side of the Atlantic and ask them how left-wing Starmer is"

Translation: "Ask any of my fellow far-left shills: when you're as far to the left as we are, everyone who's not quite so far to the left is to the right of us! Why, Stalin was practically a political moderate compared to us; so naturally, we consider Labour in general and Starmer in particular to be center-right."

"your "hoaxes" are not hoaxes: one is a completely ambiguous bit of nonsense from the then-President which could easily mean exactly what has been inferred by many people. That he contradicted himself a bunch later is more like an attempt at plausible deniability than "assuming he meant what he actually said is a hoax".[sic]"

Translation: "When a Trump quote in its proper context contradicts the false narrative we far-left shills built on wrenching that quote out of context, that means Trump contradicted himself, not that our narrative is a blatant lie. Also, I didn't actually READ that debunking; since I can dismiss americandebunk.com as a MAGA propaganda site, I don't have to, remember?"

"Re Hunter Biden's laptop: no, I don't think it's misinformation. Because unlike you I am able to change my mind when presented with evidence. It was reasonable to start with to assume that is was misinformation: the first mentions of it were from Giuliani's stream of utter bollocks that even you don't repeat as being true."

Translation: "All right, so you GOT us on that one; even our far-left echo chambers couldn't shut out the reality of that forever. Of course, as with not having to refute any of the links you provide when I can just dismiss them as propaganda, we could just dismiss anything Giuliani said as a 'stream of utter bollocks' and any evidence he presented to us as Russian misinformation without having to refute either one. Accepting realities that contradict our hoaxes long after those hoaxes have served their purpose and outlived their usefulness is EASY!"

The Capitol was in fact open for visitors that day, which may well explain why so many of the peaceful protesters respectfully remained behind the velvet ropes on that day:

https://instapundit.com/451498/

The number of protesters was in the hundreds of thousands:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/08/trump_was_right_about_the_size_of_the_crowd_on_january_6_2021.html

Among footage the far-left television propagandists did not show their credulous viewers because it contradicted the fraudulent narrative they were building from their cherry-picked material was footage of the Capitol police willingly allowing the protesters into the building after some brief verbal negotiation:

https://rumble.com/vh52u9

Ok Grandpa....here, take yer thorazine, yer gonna be fine.

Yeah, let's ignore the couple hundred bad actors who actually DID storm inside, vandalized property, pooped on furniture and stalked the halls asking aloud where the congresspersons were, as well as the number who tried to get inside who attacked Capitol police with blunt objects (such as flagpoles with American flags on them) or mace or whatever they happened to have on hand. Compared to hundreds more who DIDNT engage in this behavior...well THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING, DOESNT IT???!! RIGHT??!! NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!

No one denying that was some crazy bullsh** - but can someone explain to me like I was 111 years old how those alleged insurrectionist would have ruled America from one single captured building and make everyone else in the entire USA obey them? Not much of an insurrection if all you get to hold is a roof and some walls surrounded by the US Military while the rest of the full USA goes about business as usual, including the new president Joe Biden.

Russia couldn't even control Ukraine back when they had conquered a third of that nation in 2022 (and it's down to about one sixth now, even less if you taking into account that Ukraine have been taking some Russian counties lately and are moving in the direction of Moscow).

Now Peter, if by "moving in the direction of Moscow" you mean that Ukraine has advanced several picofractions of a nanometer in a northwesterly direction in the month of September .. well, OK. Otherwise, it's going to be a disaster. Ukraine got to this point with a brilliant unexpected move that took Russia completely by surprise; made possible by the heavily forested areas of the Sumy and Southern Kursk oblasts .......... But that advantage is gone. Russia knows their whereabouts now. And you can't go on the offensive if the other side has dominance in artillery and in the air. Ukraine has no air defense. In about six weeks, all the trees will have dropped their leaves and there will be no tree cover. So then their choices will be surrender or die

Again? That's what Russia thought in the autumn of 2022, and again in 2023, and they were dead wrong, 700 000 dead soldiers wrong by now. And on top of that Ukraine just blew up their biggest ammo depot near Moscow (Google Toropets), 450 km over the border with a home made missile (they hardly even need US long range weapons soon, US weapons industry's gonna go bankrupt with Trump in charge) in an explosion that was BIGGER than the one that leveled half of Beirut a few years ago. And the day after that they did it again to the two ammo depots closest to the one already destroyed. Russian logistics are collapsing since ammo trains now have to go all the way to North Korea for reinforcements.

@ Peter When you say:
"But she retracted her claims!

Yes, that's what happens when you're a girl and lotsa men online threaten to kill you!
..you are aware that she retracted her claims because her cat came home? And had done so before Trump raised it in the debate...
..because the cat came back, the very next day.. hmm, has potential



@MAGA - when you say:
"Translation: "Any evidence you present from a link that isn't propaganda from my far-left echo chambers, I will dismiss out of hand as 'MAGA propaganda' and therefore won't have to refute." Nice of you to admit up front that any evidence you can't refute, you'll simply dismiss as propaganda; which is exactly what you did with the overwhelming evidence for the 2020 election thefts at hereistheevidence.com I presented to you. That's why, when I present such links, they're for any spectators who might still be open to persuasion, not for non-persuadable rabidly far-left delusion dwellers like you."
This is simple projection - are you unable to think for yourself? Take the Hunter laptop, for example: as I explained, I changed my mind about it when there was clear evidence it was not made-up. The sorts of places I use for proof do the same thing: if found to be wrong, they admit it. Unlike places like hereistheevidence - they have not removed anything proven to be false; they also have much that is completely unevidenced, pure rumour. It is a propaganda site that is not trying to provide evidence, but to convince people like you (who have never read a single page in detail.. possibly of anything at all) that there is some.

"Now here's a lie that's absurdly easy to refute!"
..funny that you haven't managed to refute it, then. Just spewed some verbal diarrhoea that proves nothing.

"Translation: "Ask any of my fellow far-left shills""
er.. the far left over here call me right-wing, occasionally fascist, because I apply the same logic to them as I do to you. Again, you're making ridiculous, unevidenced assertions that do not hold up to easily-seen reality.

"Also, I didn't actually READ that debunking; since I can dismiss americandebunk.com as a MAGA propaganda site, I don't have to, remember?""
er.. the only reason I dismissed americandebunk.com as a MAGA propaganda site was *because* I read what was on it. I'm not like you: I don't do knee-jerk "it's the other side so it can be dismissed". I check first. And the two pages you linked to were obvious ignoring of reality.. so not surprising you think it's a truthful site, it tells you what you want to hear.

When you have a source (such as Guiliani or Trump in the run-up to the 2020 election) who has produced scores, probably hundreds of things fully debunked, the reasonable assumption will be that the n+1th claim will also be lies. You should be angry with them for crying wolf so very many times that nobody believed them. Your problem is you have zero critical thinking faculties, and project your own inability onto others.

@ Phil Alexander: Good morning, I'm off to work shortly so this is just from the top of my head - cats coming back make me think of Stephen King's "Pet Sematary" and The Ramones had a hit with that exact name plus an earworming chorus, so one could start something like

I'm not gonna be eatin', until Trump has been beaten
I don't want to see him worm my friends
I'm not gonna eat pitbulls, long as Trump is of sh*t full
I don't want to see him term again

Not sure term should be used as a verb like that, but seems to work.

It is quite clear that the Jan 6 rioters could not have done anything fruitful--they could have brought serious injury or death to elected officials at the very most before someone in charge would have blown them away. The issue at hand, believe it or not, is that some on the right are attempting to paint a picture that the rioters were genial, a bit enthusiastic but certainly not out to injure people and overthrow the establishment. FOX News' Tucker Carlson even built one of his "newscasts" to millions of the gullible by cherrypicking available footage of Jan 6 folks' walking around the Capitol like slow monkeys to laughably claim as such.